Comments on: MVC is dead (really) http://blog.jeffhaynie.us/mvc_is_dead.html Jeff Haynie on business and technology in Silicon Valley Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:30:21 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: flv to dvd http://blog.jeffhaynie.us/mvc_is_dead.html/comment-page-1#comment-2173 flv to dvd Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:11:48 +0000 http://blog.jeffhaynie.us/?p=47#comment-2173 I used MVC in several projects and it isn't as convenient as expected. I used MVC in several projects and it isn't as convenient as expected.

]]> By: Steve Conover http://blog.jeffhaynie.us/mvc_is_dead.html/comment-page-1#comment-247 Steve Conover Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:01:59 +0000 http://blog.jeffhaynie.us/?p=47#comment-247 MVC will be around as long as there are user interfaces and data (I just finished a project that had at its core MVC separation in JS on the client - we loved it). It's a nice organizing principle that often makes your life simpler, and yields powerful reuse possibilities when done skillfully. Popular frameworks bloat. MVC/ORM/doesn't matter what it's based on - but it doesn't mean the underlying ideas are bad. Another way of saying that is, the bloat is parasitic on the simple ideas that attract everyone in the first place. The important thing is to take the *ideas* away that you like, and go find a nice stripped-down environment that expresses what you care about in as near a poetic way as you can get. A few things to check out: OOJS foundations: Mootools, Prototype JS testing: JsUnit Interesting ruby mini-frameworks: Sinatra, Merb, Camping, Datamapper, Sequel MVC will be around as long as there are user interfaces and data (I just finished a project that had at its core MVC separation in JS on the client – we loved it). It’s a nice organizing principle that often makes your life simpler, and yields powerful reuse possibilities when done skillfully.

Popular frameworks bloat. MVC/ORM/doesn’t matter what it’s based on – but it doesn’t mean the underlying ideas are bad. Another way of saying that is, the bloat is parasitic on the simple ideas that attract everyone in the first place.

The important thing is to take the *ideas* away that you like, and go find a nice stripped-down environment that expresses what you care about in as near a poetic way as you can get.

A few things to check out:

OOJS foundations: Mootools, Prototype
JS testing: JsUnit
Interesting ruby mini-frameworks: Sinatra, Merb, Camping, Datamapper, Sequel

]]> By: Mike http://blog.jeffhaynie.us/mvc_is_dead.html/comment-page-1#comment-238 Mike Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:12:22 +0000 http://blog.jeffhaynie.us/?p=47#comment-238 Recently Microsoft announced a new ASP.NET MVC framework and there has been a lot of interest in it, so it's not really dead in the minds of programmers. In fact, I believe that even in SOUI (as I understand it) you'd still need routing and controllers. Granted, views are not needed if you have a single page AJAX/DHTML interface, but you still need to call to an endpoint that maps to a controller. Recently Microsoft announced a new ASP.NET MVC framework and there has been a lot of interest in it, so it’s not really dead in the minds of programmers.
In fact, I believe that even in SOUI (as I understand it) you’d still need routing and controllers. Granted, views are not needed if you have a single page AJAX/DHTML interface, but you still need to call to an endpoint that maps to a controller.

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